Why Traditional Sales Is Dead—and What You Should Do Instead

Why Traditional Sales Is Dead—and What You Should Do Instead


The sales landscape has shifted, and if you’re still using outdated tactics, you’re not just behind—you’re losing. In our latest Scale Smart Grow Fast podcast episode, Harley Green sits down with sales strategist and bestselling author Joe Candido to unpack what today’s B2B buyers really want—and how sales leaders can meet them there.

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🎯 Traditional Tactics No Longer Work

Buyers today are informed, empowered, and immune to product pitches. Joe makes it clear: “No one wants to hear about your company—they want value.” If your sales team is leading with features instead of outcomes, you’re doing it wrong.

💡 Enter Leadership Selling

Joe introduces his game-changing framework: Leadership Selling. This approach prioritizes:

  • Selling to decision-makers (not just gatekeepers)
  • Understanding client business goals
  • Delivering value before asking for anything
  • Focusing on business outcomes over product specs

🧠 Mindset Shifts That Drive Growth

Leadership selling isn’t just a strategy—it’s a mindset. Joe urges sales leaders to:

  • Assess team competencies, not just skills
  • Coach based on forward-looking activities (not just closed deals)
  • Stop chasing RFPs unless you helped write them
  • Be involved—review deals, negotiate, coach in the field

🛠 Tools & Time Management

Joe highlights that most salespeople spend less than 20% of their time actually selling. His fix? Leverage tech—like CRMs and AI—for research, scheduling, and admin tasks. But streamline it. “If the system frustrates your reps, they’ll game it,” he warns.

✅ Pro Tip to Boost Revenue Now

Joe’s go-to strategy: Gather your team, review all current opportunities, and prioritize the top-tier deals you can realistically close this month. Focus energy there and watch results accelerate.


Bottom Line: If you want to lead a modern, high-performing sales team, stop selling like it’s the 90s. Start leading with value, insight, and strategic intent.


📘 Learn more about Joe’s work: https://leadership-selling.com

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Transcript

Harley Green: Hey everybody, welcome back to the Scale Smart Grow Fast podcast. I’m host Harley Green. And as you may know in business sales, sales is not just a department. It’s the engine of scale in a business. In this episode, Joe Candido, sales strategist and author of Leadership Selling, reveals why traditional sales tactics are failing and what today’s buyers actually expect. Joe shares how sales leaders can transform their teams into trusted business advisors that drive revenue, loyalty and long-term growth by focusing on outcomes, not pitches. Joe, welcome to the podcast. How are you today?

Joe Candido: I’m doing great Harley, nice to see you and thanks for having me here.

Harley Green: It’s our pleasure. Now, Joe, can you maybe elaborate a little bit, give the audience more background about what’s brought you to helping other people scale their sales teams.

Joe Candido: My career has really been a journey in sales. I started in the tech sector. And I quickly figured out that if I didn’t understand my customer’s world, I was never going to succeed at selling anything to them. They didn’t care about the technology. They cared about something that was happening in their business that the technology might be able to help them with. So it caused me to shift how I approached sales. Initially, I was all about the product. I had to learn the product features, I had to do a great demo, but it was completely my agenda, product centric. Product is important. It’s foundational knowledge. You have to have it, but that’s not the end state. That’s the beginning of the journey with the customer. You have to be knowledgeable about their world and then show them how the product or service you represent can be of value to them in their world. So it’s really a shift from a me-centric approach to a client-centric approach.

Harley Green: You’ve said that traditional selling is dead. What do you believe has changed most in how sales needs to be done today?

Joe Candido: The buyers are way more savvy than they used to be. Today we have so much information as buyers. We’ve got the internet and we have access to competitors. We have a global landscape. We can source goods and services from a really large geography. This is true whether you’re selling nationally or locally, whether you’re a small company, mid-size company, or a multinational. The buyers are sophisticated and they know a lot. They’re trying to find someone who can bring value beyond what they can get on their own. So the question we all need to ask is, why should someone buy from me? What am I doing beyond the core service and product, beyond my competitors, that causes the buyer to say, I want to work with you? That’s why traditional selling is dead. Dialing for dollars, working through a list, and pitching people doesn’t work. They don’t care about your company or product until you’ve earned the right. If a buyer really wants to know about your company, they’ll ask. Until then, offer value first.

Harley Green: What are some tips or strategies to help identify what that value might be with your ideal client and really distinguish yourself from the competition?

Joe Candido: First, to be clear, I’m talking about business-to-business selling. We’re assuming salespeople are engaging by phone, face-to-face, or Zoom. This isn’t Amazon. You need to do your homework. Know who you’re calling and why. Know the company, the person, their title, and what challenges they might be facing. Have something of value to share that is not a pitch. It could be a white paper, a trend, something about their industry—something helpful. This demonstrates you know their world. Sometimes you have to do this two or three times before they’ll trust you enough to talk. You might email something, leave a voicemail, or follow up with more insights. Build trust.

Harley Green: One thing you talk about a lot is leadership selling. How is leadership selling different from what most sales teams are currently doing?

Joe Candido: Leadership selling means be a leader and sell to leaders. We usually sell to the middle or lower part of the organization because we think it’s easier. But they often don’t have buying authority. Or they buy based on strict criteria, usually focused on price. Leaders are paid to change the business. Managers run it. When you sell to a leader, they know the goals, they know where they’re trying to take the company. They want to hear about trends, competitors, and what can help them hit their objectives. And they have the authority and budget to act. You can reach them if you’re prepared with insights. I’ve seen it done time and again.

Harley Green: Tell us some tips or strategies to make sure you’re able to speak with those leaders and decision makers.

Joe Candido: The gatekeeper can be your best ally. Their job is to open the gate, not just close it. So don’t go around them—talk to them. They answer the phone. Be transparent: “I need to speak to your boss and here’s why.” Explain the value you bring. Say you work with executives like theirs and want to share some trends. When they say they’ll check with their boss, explain that the boss will have questions they can’t answer—and will want to get a feel for you personally. Offer a quick, 2–3 minute chat. That approach works 70% of the time.

Harley Green: Let’s shift to mindset. What are some mindset shifts that sales leaders and salespeople need to make?

Joe Candido: One shift is focusing on competencies, not just knowledge. Many salespeople know what to do but don’t do it—especially when it comes to prospecting. We need to assess teams and understand the gaps. Managers need to stop just telling people what to do and start coaching how to do it. Also, shift from looking backward (at reports) to looking forward. Ask what they’re doing today to be successful tomorrow. Focus more on activity than just results. Results matter, but activity drives them. Set clear expectations—like five appointments this week—and help them get there. Leaders need to get involved: join sales calls, review proposals, help negotiate. Be present.

Harley Green: That’s something we see often too—leaders delegate too much. What are other common mistakes you see from leadership?

Joe Candido: One big one is not having a clear sales strategy. Everyone’s doing something, but not all rowing in the same direction. Leaders must define how the team will win. What differentiates us? Make it client-centric and focused on business outcomes. Help clients reach their goals—that’s where value is, and it leads to loyalty. You’ll justify your pricing when you can demonstrate ROI. Don’t chase RFPs unless you helped write them. They’re usually just to validate someone else’s price, and even if you win, you’ll have no relationship or margin. Stick to your plan. Target clients who are a good fit.

Harley Green: When is the right time to delegate to executive assistants so the sales team can focus on high-value activities?

Joe Candido: Time management is crucial. Most salespeople spend less than 20% of their time selling. Improve that by training and using systems. Handle emails during off-peak hours. Use AI and CRMs wisely—don’t bog people down with admin. Use AI for rough drafts, scheduling, research, and reminders—but validate its output. Tools can save time, but they shouldn’t become the job. Use them to support sales, not slow it down.

Harley Green: What kind of systems help keep teams consistent and high-performing despite all these tools?

Joe Candido: I use a framework called QQVB: Quantity, Quality, Velocity, and Balance. Your CRM and funnel should be simple and auto-generated from daily sales activities. Don’t ask reps to enter the same data in multiple places. And don’t punish them when forecasts miss—otherwise, they’ll game the system. If deals are stuck, coach, don’t blame. Understand the problem and help fix it. QQVB lets you identify bottlenecks and coach more effectively.

Harley Green: Joe, what’s one actionable step sales teams should take right now?

Joe Candido: Gather your team, look at every opportunity, and rank them. Focus your energy on the top 5, 10, or 20 that are most likely to close this month. Collaborate as a team to prioritize and close. This drives immediate results and builds great habits.

Harley Green: Joe, how can people connect with you?

Joe Candido: Go to leadership-selling.com. You’ll find my book and contact info. No strings—happy to chat.

Harley Green: Thank you so much, Joe. And thanks to everyone tuning in. If you got value from this episode, like, subscribe, and share. We’ll see you next time.

Scaling with Intention: Insights from the Executive Edge Panel on Hiring for Strategic Growth

Scaling with Intention: Insights from the Executive Edge Panel on Hiring for Strategic Growth

In today’s fast-moving business landscape, hiring isn’t just about adding bodies—it’s about building impact. That was the central theme of our Executive Edge panel, hosted by Workergenix founder and CEO, Harley Green. This dynamic session brought together an elite lineup of business leaders to explore the often-misunderstood art of hiring with strategy, purpose, and long-term vision.

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Meet the Panel

The June edition featured powerhouse panelists with deep experience in operations, team-building, and scalable business strategy:

Each guest shared their unfiltered insights on when to hire, how to delegate without abdicating, and what it truly takes to scale without burnout.


The Myth of “More People = More Progress”

Harley kicked things off by challenging a common myth: that hiring more people automatically leads to more output. Susan Fennema was quick to point out that without systems and structure, more team members can lead to confusion, not productivity. Clay Posey shared a vivid story from his early career, cautioning against the “military math” of assuming 200 workers can accomplish a 200-hour job in one hour. As he emphasized, each new hire introduces complexity and potential inefficiencies if not integrated with intention.


Stories of Game-Changing Hires

Each panelist shared a story of a single hire that transformed their business. For Susan, it was a part-time virtual assistant who evolved into her full-time Director of Operations—and future successor. Jason Rosado recounted how helping a client hire a project manager doubled their revenue and cut work hours in half. Mike Slinker highlighted the essential difference between visionary leaders and tactical implementers, explaining how hiring a strategic executor turned a high-growth church organization around.

Clay emphasized the leap of faith (and data) required to hire a manager before the chaos hits. His early-year hire freed him up for business development and helped match the company’s entire prior-year revenue by mid-year.


Where to Start: Ops, Sales, or Admin?

There was a healthy debate on where founders should begin scaling. Susan recommends getting out of day-to-day operations first, especially for small businesses. Jason focuses on aligning the owner’s strengths and passion with their role and building the org chart around that. The consensus? Every founder’s path is different, but clarity on your unique value is non-negotiable.


Hiring Fails & Lessons Learned

No panel on hiring would be complete without talking about what not to do. Clay shared a painful (but valuable) lesson about hiring without clear systems. Jason stressed the need for two-way interviews, encouraging founders to ask tough, disqualifying questions to reveal fit. Mike urged business owners to recognize the art of interviewing, and Susan warned about mixing business with family without a clear exit.


Knowing When It’s Time to Hire

The panel closed with actionable frameworks for recognizing when it’s time to bring someone in. Jason shared how he uses vision-based planning and energy coaching to help clients tune into their internal compass. Susan and Clay emphasized data and financial forecasting. Mike introduced a “rubber band” analogy—watching for stretch and stress as signals that your team’s capacity is maxed out.


Final Takeaways

If there’s one thing this panel made clear, it’s that hiring is never just about filling a role. It’s about aligning vision, values, and capacity to drive the business forward. When done right, a single hire can transform a company’s culture, revenue, and trajectory.

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Transcript

Harley Green:
Welcome, everyone. I’m Harley Green, founder and CEO of Workergenix, where we help executives and leadership teams stay focused on high-impact activities by delegating the rest to highly skilled, AI-leveraged Ultimate Executive Assistants. I’m thrilled to moderate today’s Executive Edge live panel with a group of powerhouse leaders who understand that hiring should be about strategic impact, not just headcount.

Our panelists include:

  • Clay Posey, CEO and founder of Clearbox Strategies, with over 30 years of experience in data-driven growth strategy and scalable team building.
  • Susan Fennema, CEO and founder of Beyond the Chaos, is an operations expert helping business owners escape the weeds through strategic support hires.
  • Mike Slinker, CEO of Tennessee Memories and founder of Slinker Consulting, is a visionary who has built value-driven teams across industries.
  • And joining us shortly will be Jason Rosado, founder of Distinctive Coaching for Business Success.

Let’s jump right in.

Why Do Leaders Think More People = More Progress?

Susan Fennema:
Often, leaders feel overwhelmed and assume hiring more people is the solution. But that doesn’t always address the root problem. It adds overhead and interpersonal complexity, and without strategic clarity, more people won’t solve the issue.

Mike Slinker:
Many leaders equate headcount with productivity. But real progress lies at the intersection of vision and execution. It’s about finding the right implementers to match your vision, not just more hands.

Clay Posey:
This reminds me of my first job under a retired Marine Colonel. He joked that if a project needed 200 hours, a general would say, “Great, bring 200 men and do it in an hour.” But adding people doesn’t linearly increase productivity. There’s overhead, training, and diminishing returns.

Jason Rosado:
People think hiring is a way to duplicate themselves. It sounds easy in theory, but it’s complex in practice. If not done right, you create more work, not less.

Turning Points: Stories of a Key Hire

Mike Slinker:
While serving as Executive Pastor at a large church, the lead pastor had vision but lacked tactical execution. My role became about implementing systems so ministry directors could align with that vision. It reinforced how critical it is to support visionary leaders with operational strength.

Susan Fennema:
A few years ago, I hired a part-time VA who is now my full-time Director of Operations and right-hand. Her growth has been remarkable. When you hire someone aligned with your values and culture, they become a true extension of you.

Jason Rosado:
A client of mine, Andrew, had a team but was doing 70-hour weeks because he didn’t trust them. We reorganized his structure and hired a project manager to act as a buffer between him, his team, and clients. Within six months, he doubled his revenue and cut his hours in half. That one hire changed everything.

Clay Posey:
Hiring a Head of Operations this past January was pivotal. Even though she’s still ramping up, we’ve already matched last year’s revenue halfway through this year. That hire freed me to focus on business development, and it’s paid off tremendously.

Where Should You Start When Building Support Teams?

Susan Fennema:
Start by removing the owner from operations. Focus on sales, finance, and strategic oversight. Outsource marketing early if possible, and use fractional or part-time hires. You don’t need a full-time COO at $250k; there are more scalable ways to get help.

Jason Rosado:
Start with the owner’s passion. What do they love? What brings ROI? Then outsource or delegate the rest. I even have my clients create a job posting for themselves to define their dream role. From there, we build around them.

Mike Slinker:
You must assign a value to each role. Understand who brings the most value to each function and align hires accordingly.

Clay Posey:
Remember to delegate, not abdicate. Culture starts with the founder. Define and measure it. Whether you’re hiring locally or globally, instill your values and maintain quality control.

Hiring Fails and How to Avoid Them

Clay Posey:
The E-Myth by Michael Gerber taught me the importance of building systems before hiring. Clear roles and expectations are critical. I’ve made mistakes by hiring without defining responsibilities, and it led to failure for everyone involved.

Jason Rosado:
Most interviews are two people selling to each other. I teach a “two-way interview” process, where both sides explore potential mismatches. Ask tough questions like, “Why might this role not work for you?” It leads to better hires and fewer surprises.

Mike Slinker:
Interviewing is a skill. If you’re not good at it, hire someone who is. Otherwise, you’ll make hiring mistakes that could cost you dearly.

Susan Fennema:
Avoid hiring family unless you’re clear about how it ends. If you can’t fire someone, you probably shouldn’t hire them. Set expectations from day one, even with friends or relatives.

What Do You Do Now Before Making a Key Hire?

Susan Fennema:
I run the numbers rigorously. Once, I hired someone hoping revenue would match. It didn’t, and I had to part ways. Now, I consider what happens if projections fall short.

Clay Posey:
I ask candidates to reflect on their budgets. Not share them with me, but to be honest with themselves. If they’re taking the job but can’t cover their expenses, it won’t end well.

Mike Slinker:
Pay-for-performance agreements keep both sides aligned. They encourage results while managing cost and motivation.

Jason Rosado:
Be cautious about asking too much. Budget questions might border on legal gray areas. Help new hires plan financially, but don’t overstep.

When Is It Time to Hire?

Jason Rosado:
Map out where you want to be in a year, then work backward. Build a hiring timeline based on business goals, capacity, and stress levels. Factor in emotional blocks too, fear often clouds judgment.

Susan Fennema:
Treat hiring as a last resort. Start with automation, outsourcing, and part-time support. People are your most expensive resource, and drama often follows them.

Mike Slinker:
Use the “rubber band” analogy. If a team is stretched to the max, it’s about to snap. Don’t wait for burnout. Build margin early to support healthy growth.

Clay Posey:
I forecast hiring needs based on our pipeline and metrics. If I know I’ll need someone by August, I start hiring in June to allow ramp-up time. Data-driven hiring protects your team and ensures quality delivery.

Closing Thoughts & How to Connect

Mike Slinker:
Reach me directly at 615-738-8883. Happy to connect.

Jason Rosado:
I offer a free organizational structure and revenue growth assessment. Text “assessment” to 773-829-1276 to schedule.

Clay Posey:
Visit clearboxstrategies.com to book a time with me. We help with planning, growth, marketing, and automation.

Susan Fennema:
Check out beyondthechaos.biz/operations-audit for a free operations audit. Let’s talk about getting you out of the day-to-day.

Harley Green:
Thanks to all our amazing panelists. If you enjoyed this, I invite you to our free masterclass, Delegate to Dominate, where I show you how to reclaim 15–30 hours a week with strategic support. Visit workergenix.com/bonus-masterclass for access and a special offer. Thanks for joining us—see you at the next Executive Edge live session!

6 Habits Every CEO Needs to Scale Without Burnout

6 Habits Every CEO Needs to Scale Without Burnout

Scaling a business isn’t about grinding harder—it’s about leading smarter. In this episode of Scale Smart Grow Fast, operations strategist and host of the CEO Amplify podcast, Donna Dube, breaks down six powerful habits that help business owners step into true CEO mode, reclaim their time, and grow sustainably.

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1. Protect Your CEO Power Hour

Set aside one non-negotiable hour each week to review metrics, define top priorities, and align your calendar accordingly. This ritual turns reactive chaos into proactive leadership.

2. Know the Difference: Maintenance vs. Growth

Maintenance tasks (bookkeeping, social posts, admin work) keep the wheels turning. Growth tasks (sales, partnerships, visibility) drive revenue. Your calendar should reflect that difference—with you focused on growth.

3. Measure Your Time ROI with the CEO Score

Determine your ideal revenue goal, divide it by the weeks you’ll work, and assign values to your tasks. The goal? Spend more time in $1K and $10K-level activities—not $10 jobs.

4. Start Delegating Before You Feel Ready

Even if you’re bootstrapping, you can start small. Audit your tasks to eliminate what’s unnecessary, automate what you can, and delegate what requires a human touch. Five hours a week can make a massive difference.

5. Trust Through Systems, Not Guesswork

Document key processes, provide clear expectations, and let your team run with it—even if it’s 80% “your way.” Progress beats perfection every time.

6. Build Scalable Systems

Your business needs 3 core systems: Marketing, Sales, and Client Delivery. Create rinse-and-repeat workflows with templates, assets, and checklists to reduce friction and grow with ease.


“If you insist on doing everything yourself, you’re also agreeing to stay where you are.”Donna Dube


📥 Download Donna’s CEO Power Hour Playbook: https://ceoamplify.ca

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