Why Capable Hires Still Miss Your Vision 

Opening Scaling Tension

Most founder-led businesses don’t stall because of a lack of strategy. They stall because the leadership team becomes the operating system.

Every approval routes through the founder. Every decision waits for executive input. Every process depends on institutional knowledge sitting inside one person’s head.

At first, this feels efficient. The business grows because the founder is involved in everything. Eventually, that same involvement becomes the bottleneck.

Decision fatigue increases. Execution slows. Teams wait for direction. Opportunities sit idle because leadership bandwidth is consumed by tasks that should have been removed, automated, or delegated months ago.

The result isn’t just operational drag. It’s a capital allocation problem. Leadership attention is one of the most expensive resources in any business. When it’s spent on low-leverage work, growth becomes increasingly difficult to sustain.

That challenge sat at the center of a recent conversation with Diane Shelton, founder of Passion Breakthrough, whose work focuses on helping business owners close the gap between vision and execution.

The Hidden Constraint

Many operators assume their constraint is headcount.

Others assume it’s technology.

In reality, the deeper issue is often decision ownership.

Shelton identified two common failure patterns.

The first is over-control. Leaders hold onto responsibilities because they believe quality will decline if someone else takes over. The second is indiscriminate delegation—what she described as “dumping instead of delegating.” In this scenario, work gets transferred without context, systems, or clarity around expected outcomes.

Both approaches create the same result: leadership remains the bottleneck.

One founder is doing too much.

The other is managing unnecessary cleanup from poorly delegated work.

Neither creates operational leverage.

The hidden constraint is not capacity. It’s the absence of a repeatable decision-making framework that allows ownership to move through the organization without sacrificing quality.

The Operating Shift

One of the most practical frameworks discussed was Shelton’s adaptation of the Eisenhower Matrix: the DAD Framework.

Delete. Automate. Delegate. Do.

Most business owners instinctively operate in reverse. They do the work first, then look for ways to improve efficiency later.

The DAD framework forces a different sequence.

Before touching a task, leaders should ask:

  1. Can this be deleted?
  2. Can this be automated?
  3. Can this be delegated?
  4. Only then: Should I do it myself?

This shift matters because scaling discipline requires eliminating unnecessary decisions.

Every recurring task that remains unresolved creates future cognitive load. Every repetitive process that lacks ownership requires another leadership touchpoint.

Over time, these small decisions accumulate into execution friction.

Operators who scale effectively are rarely working longer hours. They are reducing the number of decisions that require their involvement.

That distinction is critical.

Leverage is not effort multiplication.

Leverage is decision reduction.

Execution in Practice

1. Visibility Exposes Bottlenecks

One of the simplest indicators of organizational drag is responsibility mapping.

Shelton referenced the use of responsibility frameworks similar to RACI models used within larger organizations. When founders review major initiatives and consistently see their name attached to every responsibility category, the bottleneck becomes obvious.

The exercise is straightforward:

  • Identify key business objectives.
  • Assign ownership.
  • Link deliverables to timelines.
  • Connect activities to expected ROI.

If every critical path routes through leadership, execution speed will eventually decline regardless of team size.

Scaling requires ownership transfer—not merely task transfer.

2. Tie Activity to ROI

Many organizations unintentionally build systems around activity rather than outcomes.

Tasks multiply.

Meetings expand.

Projects continue because they have always existed.

Shelton emphasized connecting responsibilities directly to measurable business outcomes. If an initiative cannot be linked to revenue generation, client retention, operational efficiency, or risk management, it deserves scrutiny.

This approach strengthens capital allocation decisions as well.

Every software subscription, hire, contractor, or automation should be evaluated through the same lens:

  • What does it cost?
  • What capacity does it create?
  • What outcome does it improve?

The goal is not cost reduction.

The goal is return on leadership attention.

3. Systems Protect Client Retention

Growth receives most of the attention in founder-led businesses.

Retention often receives less.

Yet recurring revenue, referral generation, and long-term enterprise value are typically built through consistent execution systems.

Shelton highlighted structured onboarding, early client wins, and 30-60-90 day review frameworks as examples of simple systems that improve retention and reduce delivery risk.

These aren’t administrative exercises.

They are risk management tools.

A structured onboarding process reduces uncertainty.

A documented review cadence eliminates preventable client issues.

A repeatable client experience decreases dependency on individual team members.

In each case, systems reduce cognitive load while improving consistency.

4. Technology Is Not a Strategy

AI emerged as another important topic during the conversation.

Shelton offered a useful distinction: organizations often make the same mistake with AI that they make with delegation.

They dump work into it and expect outcomes.

The result is predictable.

Generic output.

Poor adoption.

Additional complexity.

Instead, successful implementation starts with process clarity. Organizations should first identify where decisions, communication, or documentation create friction. Then technology can support those workflows.

The objective is not automation for its own sake.

The objective is operational leverage.

The best execution systems use technology to remove repetitive work while preserving human judgment where it creates the greatest value.

Leverage Outcome

The businesses that scale most effectively rarely win because they have more talented founders.

They win because they create systems that protect leadership bandwidth.

They remove unnecessary decisions.

They clarify ownership.

They automate predictable workflows.

They delegate with structure instead of hope.

And they continuously evaluate whether leadership attention is being invested where it generates the highest return.

Operational leverage is not about squeezing more work into the day.

It’s about creating an organization that can execute without requiring constant executive intervention.

When that happens, decision speed increases.

Execution becomes more predictable.

Risk management improves.

And leadership can return to the work that actually drives enterprise value: strategy, relationships, capital allocation, and growth.


Connect With the Guest

To learn more about Diane Shelton and her work:

Website: https://passionb.com

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/passion-breakthrough


The Immediate Move

If you’re still seeing your name attached to every major decision, every approval path, and every recurring task, the issue is not effort.

It’s structure.

Leadership bandwidth becomes constrained long before calendar capacity runs out. The operators who scale effectively are the ones who build decision-making frameworks, transfer ownership with clarity, and reduce cognitive load through documented execution systems.

Start by identifying one recurring responsibility that consistently pulls you into the weeds. Determine whether it should be deleted, automated, delegated, or retained. Then create the process necessary to transfer ownership permanently.

Scaling discipline comes from eliminating re-decisions—not from becoming better at managing chaos.

The objective is a business that executes with consistency even when leadership is focused elsewhere.

Watch this before you hire your next support role.

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Full Podcast Transcript

Do you ever notice how leaders with the biggest vision are usually the ones drowning in the smallest tasks? Strategy is sharp, the offer’s there, and then the week disappears into follow-ups and inbox cleanup. That’s the gap we keep coming back to on Scale Smart Grow Fast. It’s why Worker Genics puts full-time ultimate executive assistants alongside leaders so the follow-through actually happens. Today’s guest lives in that gap. Diane Shelton helps mission-driven leaders turn big vision

into everyday execution. Founder of Passion Breakthrough with an MBA and CS background, a decade scaling work for Fortune five hundreds and small businesses, now supporting clients in over a hundred and seventy countries. Let’s get into it. Dan, welcome to the podcast. How are you doing today?

I’m doing really well. I’m excited to be here.

Diane, I’d love to hear a little bit more about your background. What brought you to what you’re doing today?

Yeah, so I started out over a decade serving Fortune 500 companies and then helping their ex their leadership team and executives to really get those IT projects into fruition. And then at some point I’m just like, okay, like why is this not something that small business owners have access to? So I shifted gears, started my own business, and now I help mostly small business owners, service providers and professional services to really get their systems in place for more sales.

Awesome. And now, Diane, in the intro, we talked about how leaders are drowning in the small stuff, even while they have that big vision. And you’ve been on kind of both sides of that both with the Fortune 500 work and now your own business. What made you want to go and build passion breakthrough?

if I’m being honest with myself, looking back, it was burnout that made me decide that it’s just like is there is this all there is is you know, like someone else’s vision and the cubes and all that stuff. But

Now that I’m thinking about it more holistically, it really is that again, like my own passion breakthrough of wanting to make sure that I’m helping others to pursue their passion breakthrough. Cause I feel like we get to have more fun and find more joy in life and that free and enjoy that freedom that we crave when we’re working alongside others that’s also doing the work and focus in their zone of genius.

Yeah, having that passion definitely shines through and is a good motivator for getting up and and helping people every day. Now, when you’re working with these leaders who are stuck in that gap that we talked about between vision and execution, what’s usually the real problem you find once you start digging in?

Yes that one? Yes.

No, no, no. I think there’s two things. So I actually was just working with a leader about this. because it feels like when you first start, right? Like in when you have a smaller team and whatnot, the control aspect is real where it’s just like, okay, I’ve been doing this really well. it’s hard to let go of certain tasks because quality might go down. You don’t already have time to train someone else and start from scratch and all those different things, I think from a being in the weeds perspective.

I think the other side of that though is like people that just want to delegate and without a plan and being strategic about it and expect those people, no matter how much of an expert they are, they do not know your vision. So I think those are the two gaps that I see is like either you care too much or you care a little too little.

Yeah, we call that dumping instead of delegating, right? What what often helps in conversations with people give them the confidence to understand that they can delegate, maybe if they’re in that first camp where they’re worried about the quality and you know someone not doing it as well as they can.

Yes, exactly.

so I call it so the Heisenhower matrix, which is like way back when, so I call it the dad matrix, which is like delete, automate, delegate, and then do. Like if like mo the reason I call it the dad is because like if you ask like most most moms asking dads to take the garbage out, they’d rather delete it off their heads, try to automate it or delegate it to one of their kids before they’re the ones that gets to do it. So I feel like it’s really

Yeah.

applicable also for business owners because it’s just like we tend to do it the reverse. We try to do it first and try to see if we can do it. but again like you can only have so much time in your day. So it’s really nice to really hyper prioritize, delete things that are not prior n important andor priorities and then delegate as you see fit and automate as well.

So that’s a great framework. I love the acronym DAD. Okay. So walk me through some of the first things that start changing for clients you work with. Like what’s early on that moves the needle to really unlock momentum for them?

Thanks.

I think the biggest part that I’ve noticed is that when you have clarity on your goals and that is linked to timeline and who’s responsible, right? Like it if you look at like the bigger corporations again, like when I was doing the Fortune 500 stuff, like they have teams and there’s always like a racy chart, is what we like to call it in terms of who’s responsible, accountable, and all those different things. And then in if you are always the one that you’re always seeing your name on that spreadsheet, it’s just like okay, you’re

the bottleneck. So having that clarity and visibility to be not just for you but for your team too, if you have a team to make sure that everyone’s on the same page and that the ROI is tied into like

the task that is leading into the goals because sometimes we end up working with things that’s just like, where did this task even come from? so again, like in in those kinds of nuances, maybe it is still important to follow up. So you do an automation, set up like a CRM or something to make sure that every couple of weeks, couple of months that you’re following up with certain people, but a human doesn’t have to do that. So just understanding what can be automated, delegated, and then being clear on that.

Now, Diana, a lot of small business owners early on, they’re likely saying their name in all those different slots like you mentioned. How do you help walk them through prioritizing, you know, what to automate, what to delegate, and bringing in some some help to actually allow them to delegate if they don’t already have a team?

Yes.

Yeah. so again, like I think if it’s just you, there’s you know, like AI options, but I feel like you’re still managing that and you have to be really good at the prompt engineering side of things. So the way I look at it is twofold. Like if you can focus on you doing the strategic relational stuff, because people work with people, and also making sure that there’s ROI. So if you’re hiring somebody or using a tool.

You’re looking at how much is that costing you, your time versus the cost of the tool or the person that you’re hiring, versus how much is that really bringing in your bottom line. So if you’re gonna start hiring people, is that really translating to sales? So just making sure ROI is tied into that. and the other thing I just want to add in is like making sure when you hire or look for tools that you’re looking at the value system, because there’s tools out there that’s like collecting your data and feeding it to like third party.

advertisers and stuff like that and same with the humans. Like if you look through their profile and it’s just like, well, that’s not the kind of people I want serving my clients. So making sure your value aligned as well.

That’s a really good point. What about the like opportunity costs? If someone who’s a founder wants their time to be worth $300 an hour and there’s a lot of tasks on that list that, you know, might be low value, someone would do for $10, $12 an hour, how do they maybe compare that when there’s not necessarily like revenue directly tied to that task, but they’re still doing it?

Yeah, to your point, like there’s some costs and opportunity costs and all of these sort of different things. so from that perspective, really again, like you’re looking at it with if like I just had the person that Mows or lawn to come this morning and just thinking about okay, like I don’t want to first I don’t wanna do it. And secondly, like if I’m have if I’m paying someone else to do a certain task, what am I doing with my time? Am I just like sitting and watching TV?

Or am I actually being productive? And then even if you don’t see a really close ROI, there’s the long-term effect, right? Like so you’re you’re planting seeds in the relationships, you’re moving along your team and all the these different things in terms of creating more pathway for you and then building a very highly the system in place that is going to be long-term nurture and all those things.

And one thing you help a lot of your clients with is building recurring revenue streams. a lot of founders come in and their world is just in this like one-off chaos. They just go from one sale to the next. What are some of the shifts you help people make to get into that recurring sales model?

so there’s a again, like I feel like there’s a few things when it comes to this and these are topics I can talk about all day, but some nuances and some high level points is that you know like I feel like when people are getting those one-off sales, it’s like a drive-thru McDonald’s business where it’s just like, okay, like one transaction after the next

And you never know what kind of individual is gonna walk through the drive-thru. Versus like if you have an ecosystem of recurring revenue, you can easily more track that and get in front of the right people because you know holistically, like, okay, here’s the kinds of individuals I prefer to work with and you have more fun with again. so making sure you have your ecosystem in place from that perspective that feels in alignment with you. And the other side of it too is like if you already have multiple offers.

But it feels like, okay, like I don’t know the relationship between the two and you’re trying to delegate that to a team member and they’re getting confused. So again, having that streamlined approach and having that more systematic kind of helps everybody to be on the same page and make it faster to convert as well.

When a business has a lot of offers, how do you help them kind of sort through what they really should be focusing on and maybe applying that same principle of like maybe we cut some, maybe we delegate or you know, focus on others?

Yeah. so I run into that. There’s some clients I have that are multi-passionate. So they have like different offers and trying to figure out how that all come together. So the way that I kind of look at it is again like everything comes back to relationship and revenue. So if you are having revenue from certain types of offers, you want to keep those or revise it so that they’re more just one type of a bundle.

if you are working with like relationship driven, because again, like people work with people, you can automate certain things or delegate certain tasks, but at the end of the day, like having the strategy calls, you know, like maybe they your clients are hiring you for making sure you have FaceTime with them. So making sure you have those certain offers because that’s where people can relate and refer and continue to return back for more working with you because they like your personality and stuff.

I’m glad you brought that up, you know, having those clients return because client retention is something that’s really important. A lot of business owners say they want to have their dream clients and have that retention, but very few can execute it well. What does keeping the right clients around actually look like in the day-to-day for people you work with?

Mm-hmm.

I think there’s two sides again to that one is retention and actually being okay to fire clients that are not a fit. So, so the retention part again, like it goes back to relationship, having the systems in place to be like, okay, like doing the first week of if you’re doing like professional service type things, the first week of making sure they have quick wins and then the 30, 60, 90 day check-in at a minimum.

and then also having your onboarding and offboarding journey all tied together. from a, you know, like if you are an e-commerce or product, like making sure that it’s not just a transaction when they buy from you, either connecting with you on social media or on on your email list for newsletters, and then again, nurturing them because again, if they like the product, they’ll tell friends about it. So tell give them an opportunity to do that.

in terms of firing clients that, you know, like if you have a product and they’re just returning all the time, making sure you have the process in place for that as well. And or for services, like making sure that if they are eating more of your time, know how to delegate those certain tasks and or be willing to have a hard conversation with people to be like, Hey, this isn’t working, this isn’t what we agreed on. and making sure you deliver contractually and then just making sure you are

being intentional and providing the value that you said you were going to as well.

Those some great tips. And one thing you mentioned was the check-ins at the 30, 60, 90 points. we found in our business helping business owners onboard executive assistants, having the 30, 60, 90 plan, both with the check-in as well as the you know clear plan to help both the EA and the business owner know what to delegate has been super helpful. And one of the tools we leverage.

to help generate those based on our consult calls and information that the client has shared is AI. And so I wanted to talk about AI briefly with you and hear how are some ways that you’re using AI in your business to really genuinely move the needle in your business and the clients that you serve.

yeah, so there’s so many different tools. productivity is a big part, right? Like making sure that I stay on top of emails and stuff like that. So I leverage some tools there. Claude, Chat GPT, all that stuff are also helpful in terms of making sure that, you know, like if you’re creating an SOP, let’s say, for certain tasks, so you don’t even have to do those things manually anymore. You can screen record and then pass that on. Like I use Fathom for my meetings and then I can feed that into Claude as well. And then

just have it to go through it and then find the information based on my prompt for it. and then again, like there’s other tools, like there’s a video tool where I can create like for e-commerce clients and stuff like that. So that we can instead of hiring like influencers to just have an AI in terms of the videos and stuff like that showcasing the product. So there’s so many different uses of AI. It’s just making sure that you are aware of what is again the end result and what

task are you looking for assistance rather than saying that, hey, like I heard about this cool new tool, let me play with it. And then pretty soon you spent five hours and not knowing what the goal was to begin with.

Well, I’m glad you brought that up at the end there because that was my next question, which was where do you see leaders misusing AI and treating it like just like a magic button instead of a real tool to help them in their business?

Yeah, again, like you mentioned earlier, dumping, right? So nowadays it’s not just dumping to people, it’s also dumping the into AI in terms of like, I need to create a report for the executive leadership team or something like that. And then AI is just like, I am gonna give you something generic. because again, they don’t have your voice or your vision. and same with not just that, but I feel like sometimes executives can get the shiny object syndrome.

And then now the rest of the company is because they’re passing it down to their staff to be like, hey, like look at this tool and let me know and use it for your work. Sometimes it can just be more distracting and it could just take more time off the staff rather than just, okay, like how are you optimizing it? Is there is there gaps that can be filled? And then looking at it from that lens of like the goal setting rather than because there is a tool that was brought up to you.

Yeah, that’s interesting point of, you know, just telling people to use AI is not going to get the results you want. Maybe do you have an example or a situation you could share that you’ve observed where there was a successful rollout of deploying AI tools in an organization that you’ve worked with?

yeah, so there’s a couple that come to mind. So one of the clients that I have, again, like from a content social media stuff, so rolling that out based on like the meetings that we’ve been having and then like getting those information out. and so that’s like a smaller project. The bigger project, again, like I’ve I’ve noticed some people that you know, like they want to use let’s say copilot and just trying to figure out like how do you sequence that so it’s not necessarily the whole organization.

and then when a certain number of people can start to talk positively about it, because it’s rolling out AI is really more change management and then having your entire staff to have a buy-in. So just again, like making sure that you’re focused on the people and then the auditing the ROI, auditing the metrics, and keeping on top of that rather than just like, hey, did it work or did that not work? So you can save some time and money in the long term.

Well, speaking of AI and people and a lot of the things we’ve discussed so far have been about like the follow-through and taking that vision and and executing on it. How do you help leaders make the decision of whether a role is something that needs to have another team member brought on, maybe a virtual executive assistant, an in-person sales team member, or whether it’s something that can be handed off through automations or technology with AI?

yes, it is a great question. I personally like to make sure that people are leveraging the tools and hiring experts that can leverage the tools. So for example, like if you are looking at just creating content again, like sure you can have a VA to use Canva and look at all of the different designs, but again, like you can automate the process first.

for you getting your voice into a platform, creating like an airtable or something that can be easily handed off to delegate. So I always look at it from what can I remove? What can I automate? And then how can I have someone else to take over that automation because it makes their life easier from that perspective.

Yeah. And automation is something a lot of people are considering, especially in marketing. And I’m curious, you know, kind of as a looking ahead, if you had a crystal ball to share with the audience today, what are some shifts in marketing or other business systems that you think leaders should be paying attention to right now?

everything is going faster. Like the website this website can be done in minutes. right now the tool that I’m using has like an AI receptionist that you can also bring on your staff. so just having all of those resources available and easily created. So if you are not looking at leveraging those kinds of features, tools, your

competitor might be and they might be able to reach your client faster. So if you’re kind of in doing the dot com boom and still doing like, you know, like the back in the day type of programming and whatnot, that might be slowing you down. So again, like hiring an expert that can do the work for you and they might they’ll be on top of these types of new features and new tools. So because they’re the expert in it. So that you can be

More less in the weeds again and then more doing just the CEO visionary role.

And for the audience that is listening now and they know they’re in the weeds, they did the goal setting and mapping the responsibilities and they see their name on every single line item. What’s one thing that they could do this week to start getting out of their own way?

looking at it from a prioritization perspective and again like doing what you can like I look at it from a do you have 10 minutes, right? Like what can you actually be productive with those 10 minute blocks? And looking at what can you do like this week that you can start to handoff, whether it’s just one thing that is just been on your to-do list forever.

Or something that you’re just like every time it comes up, it’s like, I don’t really want to do this. So those are the telling signs of like what you can automate or delegate that would help you to get out of the weeds and make make you feel like you’re having fun in your business again.

Awesome. Well Diane, where can people connect with you to start exploring your work and following your latest systems ideas?

Yeah. thank you for asking. So I’m passionb.com is the website and I have a free quiz that you can take there. Like it’s a ninety-second audit to see what the gaps are in your revenue leaks. And then also I’m at Passion Breakthrough on all the different social media, LinkedIn, Instagram, and all those places. So I would love to for you to come say hi and that you’ve listened to our podcast episode.

Awesome. Thank you, Diane.

What a great conversation today. Diane dropped some real gems on simplifying the path to recurring sales, keeping dream clients around, and using smart systems and AI to actually move the needle instead of just adding more noise. And if there’s one thing that keeps coming up in this show, it’s that most leaders don’t have a vision problem. They have the follow-through problem, and they may have a good strategy, and the plan makes sense, it’s just that day-to-day execution that quietly falls apart. And that’s exactly the reason we built Worker Genics the way we did. Full-time, ultimate executive assistants.

sit us alongside you and keep the work moving behind the scenes so that big stuff actually gets done. If this sounds like something your week could use, head over to workergenics.com and take a look. Huge thank you to Diane for joining us today. Thanks to you for listening and we’ll catch you all on the next one.

e right, I cut off mid-sentence. Let me redo the full transcript properly.

Do you ever notice how leaders with the biggest vision are usually the ones drowning in the smallest tasks? Strategy is sharp, the offer’s there, and then the week disappears into follow-ups and inbox cleanup. That’s the gap we keep coming back to on Scale Smart Grow Fast. It’s why Worker Genics puts full-time ultimate executive assistants alongside leaders so the follow-through actually happens. Today’s guest lives in that gap. Diane Shelton helps mission-driven leaders turn big vision

into everyday execution. Founder of Passion Breakthrough with an MBA and CS background, a decade scaling work for Fortune five hundreds and small businesses, now supporting clients in over a hundred and seventy countries. Let’s get into it. Dan, welcome to the podcast. How are you doing today?

I’m doing really well. I’m excited to be here.

Diane, I’d love to hear a little bit more about your background. What brought you to what you’re doing today?

Yeah, so I started out over a decade serving Fortune 500 companies and then helping their ex their leadership team and executives to really get those IT projects into fruition. And then at some point I’m just like, okay, like why is this not something that small business owners have access to? So I shifted gears, started my own business, and now I help mostly small business owners, service providers and professional services to really get their systems in place for more sales.

Awesome. And now, Diane, in the intro, we talked about how leaders are drowning in the small stuff, even while they have that big vision. And you’ve been on kind of both sides of that both with the Fortune 500 work and now your own business. What made you want to go and build passion breakthrough?

if I’m being honest with myself, looking back, it was burnout that made me decide that it’s just like is there is this all there is is you know, like someone else’s vision and the cubes and all that stuff. But

Now that I’m thinking about it more holistically, it really is that again, like my own passion breakthrough of wanting to make sure that I’m helping others to pursue their passion breakthrough. Cause I feel like we get to have more fun and find more joy in life and that free and enjoy that freedom that we crave when we’re working alongside others that’s also doing the work and focus in their zone of genius.

Yeah, having that passion definitely shines through and is a good motivator for getting up and and helping people every day. Now, when you’re working with these leaders who are stuck in that gap that we talked about between vision and execution, what’s usually the real problem you find once you start digging in?

Yes that one? Yes.

No, no, no. I think there’s two things. So I actually was just working with a leader about this. because it feels like when you first start, right? Like in when you have a smaller team and whatnot, the control aspect is real where it’s just like, okay, I’ve been doing this really well. it’s hard to let go of certain tasks because quality might go down. You don’t already have time to train someone else and start from scratch and all those different things, I think from a being in the weeds perspective.

I think the other side of that though is like people that just want to delegate and without a plan and being strategic about it and expect those people, no matter how much of an expert they are, they do not know your vision. So I think those are the two gaps that I see is like either you care too much or you care a little too little.

Yeah, we call that dumping instead of delegating, right? What what often helps in conversations with people give them the confidence to understand that they can delegate, maybe if they’re in that first camp where they’re worried about the quality and you know someone not doing it as well as they can.

Yes, exactly.

so I call it so the Heisenhower matrix, which is like way back when, so I call it the dad matrix, which is like delete, automate, delegate, and then do. Like if like mo the reason I call it the dad is because like if you ask like most most moms asking dads to take the garbage out, they’d rather delete it off their heads, try to automate it or delegate it to one of their kids before they’re the ones that gets to do it. So I feel like it’s really

Yeah.

applicable also for business owners because it’s just like we tend to do it the reverse. We try to do it first and try to see if we can do it. but again like you can only have so much time in your day. So it’s really nice to really hyper prioritize, delete things that are not prior n important andor priorities and then delegate as you see fit and automate as well.

So that’s a great framework. I love the acronym DAD. Okay. So walk me through some of the first things that start changing for clients you work with. Like what’s early on that moves the needle to really unlock momentum for them?

Thanks.

I think the biggest part that I’ve noticed is that when you have clarity on your goals and that is linked to timeline and who’s responsible, right? Like it if you look at like the bigger corporations again, like when I was doing the Fortune 500 stuff, like they have teams and there’s always like a racy chart, is what we like to call it in terms of who’s responsible, accountable, and all those different things. And then in if you are always the one that you’re always seeing your name on that spreadsheet, it’s just like okay, you’re

the bottleneck. So having that clarity and visibility to be not just for you but for your team too, if you have a team to make sure that everyone’s on the same page and that the ROI is tied into like

the task that is leading into the goals because sometimes we end up working with things that’s just like, where did this task even come from? so again, like in in those kinds of nuances, maybe it is still important to follow up. So you do an automation, set up like a CRM or something to make sure that every couple of weeks, couple of months that you’re following up with certain people, but a human doesn’t have to do that. So just understanding what can be automated, delegated, and then being clear on that.

Now, Diana, a lot of small business owners early on, they’re likely saying their name in all those different slots like you mentioned. How do you help walk them through prioritizing, you know, what to automate, what to delegate, and bringing in some some help to actually allow them to delegate if they don’t already have a team?

Yes.

Yeah. so again, like I think if it’s just you, there’s you know, like AI options, but I feel like you’re still managing that and you have to be really good at the prompt engineering side of things. So the way I look at it is twofold. Like if you can focus on you doing the strategic relational stuff, because people work with people, and also making sure that there’s ROI. So if you’re hiring somebody or using a tool.

You’re looking at how much is that costing you, your time versus the cost of the tool or the person that you’re hiring, versus how much is that really bringing in your bottom line. So if you’re gonna start hiring people, is that really translating to sales? So just making sure ROI is tied into that. and the other thing I just want to add in is like making sure when you hire or look for tools that you’re looking at the value system, because there’s tools out there that’s like collecting your data and feeding it to like third party.

advertisers and stuff like that and same with the humans. Like if you look through their profile and it’s just like, well, that’s not the kind of people I want serving my clients. So making sure your value aligned as well.

That’s a really good point. What about the like opportunity costs? If someone who’s a founder wants their time to be worth $300 an hour and there’s a lot of tasks on that list that, you know, might be low value, someone would do for $10, $12 an hour, how do they maybe compare that when there’s not necessarily like revenue directly tied to that task, but they’re still doing it?

Yeah, to your point, like there’s some costs and opportunity costs and all of these sort of different things. so from that perspective, really again, like you’re looking at it with if like I just had the person that Mows or lawn to come this morning and just thinking about okay, like I don’t want to first I don’t wanna do it. And secondly, like if I’m have if I’m paying someone else to do a certain task, what am I doing with my time? Am I just like sitting and watching TV?

Or am I actually being productive? And then even if you don’t see a really close ROI, there’s the long-term effect, right? Like so you’re you’re planting seeds in the relationships, you’re moving along your team and all the these different things in terms of creating more pathway for you and then building a very highly the system in place that is going to be long-term nurture and all those things.

And one thing you help a lot of your clients with is building recurring revenue streams. a lot of founders come in and their world is just in this like one-off chaos. They just go from one sale to the next. What are some of the shifts you help people make to get into that recurring sales model?

so there’s a again, like I feel like there’s a few things when it comes to this and these are topics I can talk about all day, but some nuances and some high level points is that you know like I feel like when people are getting those one-off sales, it’s like a drive-thru McDonald’s business where it’s just like, okay, like one transaction after the next

And you never know what kind of individual is gonna walk through the drive-thru. Versus like if you have an ecosystem of recurring revenue, you can easily more track that and get in front of the right people because you know holistically, like, okay, here’s the kinds of individuals I prefer to work with and you have more fun with again. so making sure you have your ecosystem in place from that perspective that feels in alignment with you. And the other side of it too is like if you already have multiple offers.

But it feels like, okay, like I don’t know the relationship between the two and you’re trying to delegate that to a team member and they’re getting confused. So again, having that streamlined approach and having that more systematic kind of helps everybody to be on the same page and make it faster to convert as well.

When a business has a lot of offers, how do you help them kind of sort through what they really should be focusing on and maybe applying that same principle of like maybe we cut some, maybe we delegate or you know, focus on others?

Yeah. so I run into that. There’s some clients I have that are multi-passionate. So they have like different offers and trying to figure out how that all come together. So the way that I kind of look at it is again like everything comes back to relationship and revenue. So if you are having revenue from certain types of offers, you want to keep those or revise it so that they’re more just one type of a bundle.

if you are working with like relationship driven, because again, like people work with people, you can automate certain things or delegate certain tasks, but at the end of the day, like having the strategy calls, you know, like maybe they your clients are hiring you for making sure you have FaceTime with them. So making sure you have those certain offers because that’s where people can relate and refer and continue to return back for more working with you because they like your personality and stuff.

I’m glad you brought that up, you know, having those clients return because client retention is something that’s really important. A lot of business owners say they want to have their dream clients and have that retention, but very few can execute it well. What does keeping the right clients around actually look like in the day-to-day for people you work with?

Mm-hmm.

I think there’s two sides again to that one is retention and actually being okay to fire clients that are not a fit. So, so the retention part again, like it goes back to relationship, having the systems in place to be like, okay, like doing the first week of if you’re doing like professional service type things, the first week of making sure they have quick wins and then the 30, 60, 90 day check-in at a minimum.

and then also having your onboarding and offboarding journey all tied together. from a, you know, like if you are an e-commerce or product, like making sure that it’s not just a transaction when they buy from you, either connecting with you on social media or on on your email list for newsletters, and then again, nurturing them because again, if they like the product, they’ll tell friends about it. So tell give them an opportunity to do that.

in terms of firing clients that, you know, like if you have a product and they’re just returning all the time, making sure you have the process in place for that as well. And or for services, like making sure that if they are eating more of your time, know how to delegate those certain tasks and or be willing to have a hard conversation with people to be like, Hey, this isn’t working, this isn’t what we agreed on. and making sure you deliver contractually and then just making sure you are

being intentional and providing the value that you said you were going to as well.

Those some great tips. And one thing you mentioned was the check-ins at the 30, 60, 90 points. we found in our business helping business owners onboard executive assistants, having the 30, 60, 90 plan, both with the check-in as well as the you know clear plan to help both the EA and the business owner know what to delegate has been super helpful. And one of the tools we leverage.

to help generate those based on our consult calls and information that the client has shared is AI. And so I wanted to talk about AI briefly with you and hear how are some ways that you’re using AI in your business to really genuinely move the needle in your business and the clients that you serve.

yeah, so there’s so many different tools. productivity is a big part, right? Like making sure that I stay on top of emails and stuff like that. So I leverage some tools there. Claude, Chat GPT, all that stuff are also helpful in terms of making sure that, you know, like if you’re creating an SOP, let’s say, for certain tasks, so you don’t even have to do those things manually anymore. You can screen record and then pass that on. Like I use Fathom for my meetings and then I can feed that into Claude as well. And then

just have it to go through it and then find the information based on my prompt for it. and then again, like there’s other tools, like there’s a video tool where I can create like for e-commerce clients and stuff like that. So that we can instead of hiring like influencers to just have an AI in terms of the videos and stuff like that showcasing the product. So there’s so many different uses of AI. It’s just making sure that you are aware of what is again the end result and what

task are you looking for assistance rather than saying that, hey, like I heard about this cool new tool, let me play with it. And then pretty soon you spent five hours and not knowing what the goal was to begin with.

Well, I’m glad you brought that up at the end there because that was my next question, which was where do you see leaders misusing AI and treating it like just like a magic button instead of a real tool to help them in their business?

Yeah, again, like you mentioned earlier, dumping, right? So nowadays it’s not just dumping to people, it’s also dumping the into AI in terms of like, I need to create a report for the executive leadership team or something like that. And then AI is just like, I am gonna give you something generic. because again, they don’t have your voice or your vision. and same with not just that, but I feel like sometimes executives can get the shiny object syndrome.

And then now the rest of the company is because they’re passing it down to their staff to be like, hey, like look at this tool and let me know and use it for your work. Sometimes it can just be more distracting and it could just take more time off the staff rather than just, okay, like how are you optimizing it? Is there is there gaps that can be filled? And then looking at it from that lens of like the goal setting rather than because there is a tool that was brought up to you.

Yeah, that’s interesting point of, you know, just telling people to use AI is not going to get the results you want. Maybe do you have an example or a situation you could share that you’ve observed where there was a successful rollout of deploying AI tools in an organization that you’ve worked with?

yeah, so there’s a couple that come to mind. So one of the clients that I have, again, like from a content social media stuff, so rolling that out based on like the meetings that we’ve been having and then like getting those information out. and so that’s like a smaller project. The bigger project, again, like I’ve I’ve noticed some people that you know, like they want to use let’s say copilot and just trying to figure out like how do you sequence that so it’s not necessarily the whole organization.

and then when a certain number of people can start to talk positively about it, because it’s rolling out AI is really more change management and then having your entire staff to have a buy-in. So just again, like making sure that you’re focused on the people and then the auditing the ROI, auditing the metrics, and keeping on top of that rather than just like, hey, did it work or did that not work? So you can save some time and money in the long term.

Well, speaking of AI and people and a lot of the things we’ve discussed so far have been about like the follow-through and taking that vision and and executing on it. How do you help leaders make the decision of whether a role is something that needs to have another team member brought on, maybe a virtual executive assistant, an in-person sales team member, or whether it’s something that can be handed off through automations or technology with AI?

yes, it is a great question. I personally like to make sure that people are leveraging the tools and hiring experts that can leverage the tools. So for example, like if you are looking at just creating content again, like sure you can have a VA to use Canva and look at all of the different designs, but again, like you can automate the process first.

for you getting your voice into a platform, creating like an airtable or something that can be easily handed off to delegate. So I always look at it from what can I remove? What can I automate? And then how can I have someone else to take over that automation because it makes their life easier from that perspective.

Yeah. And automation is something a lot of people are considering, especially in marketing. And I’m curious, you know, kind of as a looking ahead, if you had a crystal ball to share with the audience today, what are some shifts in marketing or other business systems that you think leaders should be paying attention to right now?

everything is going faster. Like the website this website can be done in minutes. right now the tool that I’m using has like an AI receptionist that you can also bring on your staff. so just having all of those resources available and easily created. So if you are not looking at leveraging those kinds of features, tools, your

competitor might be and they might be able to reach your client faster. So if you’re kind of in doing the dot com boom and still doing like, you know, like the back in the day type of programming and whatnot, that might be slowing you down. So again, like hiring an expert that can do the work for you and they might they’ll be on top of these types of new features and new tools. So because they’re the expert in it. So that you can be

More less in the weeds again and then more doing just the CEO visionary role.

And for the audience that is listening now and they know they’re in the weeds, they did the goal setting and mapping the responsibilities and they see their name on every single line item. What’s one thing that they could do this week to start getting out of their own way?

looking at it from a prioritization perspective and again like doing what you can like I look at it from a do you have 10 minutes, right? Like what can you actually be productive with those 10 minute blocks? And looking at what can you do like this week that you can start to handoff, whether it’s just one thing that is just been on your to-do list forever.

Or something that you’re just like every time it comes up, it’s like, I don’t really want to do this. So those are the telling signs of like what you can automate or delegate that would help you to get out of the weeds and make make you feel like you’re having fun in your business again.

Awesome. Well Diane, where can people connect with you to start exploring your work and following your latest systems ideas?

Yeah. thank you for asking. So I’m passionb.com is the website and I have a free quiz that you can take there. Like it’s a ninety-second audit to see what the gaps are in your revenue leaks. And then also I’m at Passion Breakthrough on all the different social media, LinkedIn, Instagram, and all those places. So I would love to for you to come say hi and that you’ve listened to our podcast episode.

Awesome. Thank you, Diane.

What a great conversation today. Diane dropped some real gems on simplifying the path to recurring sales, keeping dream clients around, and using smart systems and AI to actually move the needle instead of just adding more noise. And if there’s one thing that keeps coming up in this show, it’s that most leaders don’t have a vision problem. They have the follow-through problem, and they may have a good strategy, and the plan makes sense, it’s just that day-to-day execution that quietly falls apart. And that’s exactly the reason we built Worker Genics the way we did. Full-time, ultimate executive assistants.

sit us alongside you and keep the work moving behind the scenes so that big stuff actually gets done. If this sounds like something your week could use, head over to workergenics.com and take a look. Huge thank you to Diane for joining us today. Thanks to you for listening and we’ll catch you all on the next one.